Реле внешнего освещения на ЛТК

[Nekkro]

Никто не знает, где таковое расположено?

Сегодня вырубились габариты (и передние, и задние) - предохранители проверил, все живые и рабочие. Грешу на реле.

[Dan757]

Никто не знает, где таковое расположено?

Сегодня вырубились габариты (и передние, и задние) - предохранители проверил, все живые и рабочие. Грешу на реле.

 

Насколько я помню - реле там отсутствует как класс.

[escapeman]

Было такое - фишка в сгоревшем контакте переключателя освещания, который на наших слева на себя вытягивалсо. У меня обошлось малой кровью - зачистил провод и присобачил обратно, а так - меняют в сборе всю фишку.

[Nekkro]

Никто не знает, где таковое расположено?

Сегодня вырубились габариты (и передние, и задние) - предохранители проверил, все живые и рабочие. Грешу на реле.

 

Насколько я помню - реле там отсутствует как класс.

 

Ошибаешься.

[Dan757]

Насколько я помню - реле там отсутствует как класс.

 

Ошибаешься.

 

Ну разве что если они решили на 97-... радикально переделать систему освещения. Исходил из того, что на моем даже на дальний свет реле нету.

[Димон]

А интересно, контроль негорящих лампочек в новом ЛТК есть?

[Marquis]

А интересно, контроль негорящих лампочек в новом ЛТК есть?

 

не знаю

в Континентале был

 

А про реле...светом там заведует некий LCM - lightning control module

 

Вообще, у меня есть диск фордовский - могу посмотреть.

[Nekkro]

А интересно, контроль негорящих лампочек в новом ЛТК есть?

 

не знаю

в Континентале был

 

А про реле...светом там заведует некий LCM - lightning control module

 

Вообще, у меня есть диск фордовский - могу посмотреть.

 

Посмотри плз!

Свет-то есть, не работают только габариты...

[Marquis]

изучай

 

Exterior Lighting

 

The exterior lighting subsystems covered in this section include the following:

 

l Headlamps with autolamps.

 

l Stoplamps.

 

l Turn signal lamps/hazard flasher lamps.

 

l Cornering lamp.

 

l Parking lamp.

 

l Backup lamp.

 

 

Lighting Control Module

 

This vehicle uses a lighting control module (LCM). This eliminates the electronic interference and heat associated with the thermo-electric devices used previously. The LCM:

 

l Is a microprocessor based module that controls several vehicle subsystems.

 

l Responds to electrical input signals from various switches, sensors, and external modules.

 

l Is located on the LH side of the instrument panel.

 

l Subsystem functions include:

 

l Headlamps with autolamps.

 

l Turn signal lamps/hazard flasher lamps.

 

l Cornering lamp.

 

l Parking lamp.

 

l Daytime running lamps (DRL) (Canada only).

 

l Courtesy lamps.

 

l Demand lamps.

 

l Battery saver.

 

l Backlighting.

 

l Interfaces with the driver door module (DDM) via SCP for illuminated entry.

 

 

Headlamps

 

The headlamp system consists of:

 

l Two aerodynamic headlamps with replaceable halogen headlamp bulb and retainers.

 

l Multi-position headlamp switch.

 

l Headlamp dimmer switch (part of multi-function switch).

 

l LCM.

 

l Circuit wiring and circuit protection.

 

In normal operation:

 

l With the headlamp dimmer switch in the LO position (middle position), power is supplied by the LCM to the low beam elements.

 

l With the headlamp dimmer switch in the HI position (forward detent), power is supplied by the LCM through the multi-function switch to the high beam elements and the high beam indicator is controlled by the instrument cluster in response to SCP message from the LCM.

 

l When the headlamp dimmer switch is pulled toward the steering wheel, the flash-to-pass switch in the multi-function switch is closed, and power is supplied to the headlamp from the LCM (through the multi-function switch). When the headlamp dimmer switch is released, the headlamps return to LO beam.

 

l The battery saver feature of the LCM will automatically turn off exterior and interior lamp under the following condition:

 

— Ignition switch OFF.

 

— Headlamp switch in PARK or HEAD.

 

— After 10 minutes.

 

 

Headlamp Delay System — Autolamp

 

The autolamp system:

 

l Provides light sensitive on-off control of the lamps normally controlled by the headlamp switch.

 

l Provides for increased visibility for occupants when leaving the vehicle by keeping the lamps on for a preselected period of time after the ignition switch is turned OFF.

 

l The preselected time lapse can be adjusted by the vehicle operator for up to three minutes.

 

The system consists of:

 

l A light-sensitive light sensor amplifier.

 

l LCM.

 

l An autolamp time delay control which is part of the LCM and includes an OFF position.

 

For the autolamp system to be operational, the autolamp time delay control must be moved from the OFF position and the headlamp switch must be OFF.

 

In normal operation:

 

l The system will turn the exterior lamps on when the light available to the light sensor amplifier decreases below a predetermined level, such as at sunset.

 

l The lamps will automatically turn off when the level of outside light exceeds a predetermined level, such as during daylight hours.

 

The light sensor amplifier:

 

l Is mounted in the center of the defroster grille panel.

 

l Must always be exposed to outside light to function properly.

 

Do not place any items in the center of the windshield which may block light to the light sensor amplifier and cause erratic operation of the system.

 

The autolamp time delay control (part of the LCM), located to the left of the steering column and part of the headlamp switch operates as follows:

 

l The autolamp system is functional for automatic operation when the autolamp time delay control is moved from the OFF position.

 

l The autolamp time delay is controlled by rotating the headlamp switch in a counterclockwise direction (maximum three minutes).

 

Turning on the regular headlamp switch will override the autolamp. Automatic operation will not be possible until the regular headlamp switch is turned OFF.

 

 

Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)

 

Note:

The daytime running lamps (DRL) feature must be programmed ON for Canadian vehicles.

 

The DRL feature is required for Canadian vehicles and is controlled by the LCM. The DRL feature operates the vehicle's low beam headlamps at reduced power during the daytime to make the vehicle more visible.

 

The DRL feature is to be ON when all the following conditions are met.

 

l Ignition switch position is in RUN.

 

l Headlamp switch is in OFF or parking lamps ON positions.

 

l Autolamp function has not activated the headlamp.

 

l PRNDL switch is not in PARK.

 

The driver can disable the DRL system by any one of the following actions.

 

l Turning the ignition switch to any position but RUN.

 

l Placing the vehicle in PARK.

 

l Turning the autolamp switch ON with autolamp sensor indicating night.

 

l Turning the headlamp switch ON.

 

 

Headlamp Switch

 

The headlamp switch is a multi-position switch.

 

l The positions include OFF, PARK, and HEAD.

 

l With the headlamp switch in the PARK position (first detent), a signal is supplied to the LCM which powers the front parking lamps, the tail lamps, the rear side marker lamps, and the license lamp.

 

l With the headlamp switch in the HEAD position, power is supplied to the headlamps through the LCM. The multi-function switch input tells the LCM to turn on low beams or high beams.

 

 

Panel Dim Switch

 

l The panel dim switch is located above the headlamp switch. The panel dim switch operates only with the parking lamps or headlamp in the ON position.

 

l When the panel dim switch is held in the up position, the instrument panel lighting will progressively brighten.

 

l When the panel dim switch is held in the down position, the instrument panel lighting will progressively dim.

 

 

Headlamps On Warning Chime

 

If the headlamp switch is left in either the PARK or HEAD position and the driver door is opened, the LCM will sound a headlamps on reminder chime when the following conditions occur:

 

l The ignition switch position is in OFF with ignition key out.

 

l The driver door is ajar.

 

 

Brake Pedal Position (BPP) Switch

 

The brake pedal position (BPP) switch provides power to the stoplamps. The LCM signals various other systems, including:

 

l Anti-lock brake control module.

 

l Powertrain control module (PCM).

 

l Shift lock actuator.

 

l Speed control servo.

 

 

Lamps — Parking, Rear/Marker

 

The power to these lamps is provided through the LCM and interconnected wiring with the headlamp switch in the PARK, HEAD, AUTOLAMPS or NIGHT positions.

 

 

Stoplamps

 

Note:

The stoplamps are powered from the BPP switch directly, not from the LCM.

 

Stoplamps are mounted in the same housings as the rear lamp.

 

Stoplamp functions are performed by double filament bulbs. The low power filaments are dedicated to the parking lamp operation. Stoplamps utilize the high power filaments when the driver applies the brake pedal.

 

 

Lamp, Rear Hi-Mount

 

The rear hi-mount lamp is mounted in the rear window area. It operates in conjunction with the stoplamps.

 

 

Lamps, License

 

The license lamps:

 

l Are located in the luggage compartment door.

 

l Have replaceable miniature bulbs.

 

l Are provided power through the LCM when headlamp switch is in either the PARK, HEAD, or AUTOLAMP positions.

 

 

Lamps, Backup

 

Note:

The backup lamps are not powered by the LCM.

 

The backup lamp system consists of:

 

l Backup lamp below the rear lamp.

 

l Circuit wiring and circuit protection.

 

l Digital transmission range (DTR) sensor.

 

With the transaxle in REVERSE, the DTR sensor closes and power is provided to the backup lamp bulbs.

 

 

Lamps, Cornering

 

The cornering lamps are powered from the turn signal circuit. When the multi-function switch is activated and the headlamps are on, the cornering lamp on the turn side will illuminate, and remain illuminated until the turn signals cancel.

 

 

Turn Signal and Hazard Lamps

 

The turn signal system consists of:

 

l Turn signal miniature bulbs.

 

l LCM.

 

l Turn signal indicator in the instrument cluster.

 

l multi-function switch.

 

l Circuit wiring and circuit protection.

 

The signal system operates as follows:

 

l The turn signal functions are performed by double filament bulbs in lamp assemblies located next to the headlamps.

 

l The turn/hazard function utilizes the second filament of the appropriate bulb(s).

 

l With the multi-function switch in the right turn position, power is supplied to the RH front and rear turn signal miniature bulbs and the RH turn indicator in the instrument cluster.

 

l With the multi-function switch in the left turn position, power is supplied to the LH front and rear turn signal miniature bulbs and the LH turn indicator in the instrument cluster.

 

 

Hazard Flasher Switch

 

The hazard flasher switch (part of the multi-function switch) is located on the top of the steering column, forward of the steering wheel.

 

l The hazard flasher switch should cycle smoothly from OFF to ON by pressing and releasing the switch top.

 

l The switch should produce an audible click when it toggles from one state to another.

 

l The switch should extend markedly further above the column when the switch is ON than it does when it is OFF.

 

When the hazard flasher switch is in the ON position, the four turn signal lamps will flash. Also, the two turn indicators in the hybrid electronic cluster (HEC) will flash simultaneously.

[Marquis]

у тебя получается вот симптомы:

Condition(s):

 

o No Communication With the Module — Unable to Perform On-Demand Self-Test On Lighting Control Module

 

o The Turn Signal Lamps Are Never On — Hazard Flasher Lamps Are Never On

 

o One Turn Signal/Hazard Lamp Is Never On

 

o The Cornering Lamps Are Never/Always On

[Marquis]

и вот что при них предлагается сделать:

 

Turn Signal, Cornering and Hazard Lamps

 

Refer to the Wiring Diagrams Cell «90» for schematic and connector information.

 

Refer to the Wiring Diagrams Cell «91» for schematic and connector information.

 

 

Special Service Tool(s)

 

 

73 Digital Multimeter or equivalent

105-R0051

 

 

New Generation Star (NGS) Tester or equivalent

418-F048 (007-00500)

 

 

Inspection and Verification

 

1. Verify the customer concern by operating the turn signal/cornering/hazard lamps.

 

2. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage; refer to the following chart:

 

 

Visual Inspection Chart

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і Mechanical і Electrical і

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і щ Multi-function switch і щ Blown fuse(s) і

і і щ Damaged wiring harness і

і і щ Loose or corroded і

і і connection і

і і щ Turn signal/hazard bulb(s) і

і і щ Lighting control module і

і і (LCM) і

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3. If the inspection reveals obvious concern(s) that can be readily identified, repair as required.

 

4. If the concern remains after the inspection, connect the New Generation STAR (NGS) Tester to the data link connector (DLC) located beneath the instrument panel and select the vehicle to be tested from the NGS menu. If the NGS does not communicate with the vehicle:

 

l check that the program card is properly installed.

 

l check the connections to the vehicle.

 

l check the ignition switch position.

 

5. If the NGS still does not communicate with the vehicle, refer to the New Generation STAR Tester manual.

 

6. Perform the DATA LINK DIAGNOSTIC TEST. If the NGS responds with:

 

l CKT914, CKT915 or CKT70 = ALL ECUS NO RESP/NOT EQUIP, refer to «Section 418-00».

 

l NO RESP/NOT EQUIP for lighting control module (LCM), go to Pinpoint Test A.

 

l SYSTEM PASSED, retrieve and record the continuous diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), erase the continuous DTCs and perform self-test diagnostics for the LCM.

 

7. If the DTCs retrieved are related to the concern, go to the LCM Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index to continue diagnostics.

 

8. If no DTCs related to the concern are retrieved, proceed to Symptom Chart to continue diagnostics.

[Nekkro]

Спасибо!

[Marquis]

Чего спасибо то. Лампы сразу загорелись?)

[Димон]

Там наверняка встроеное ограничение тока полупроводниковых ключей, так что если в цепях лампочек габаритов короткое замыкание, то они не будут светиться, но и предохронитель гореть не будет.

[AOR]

Ага, значит через этот модуль теперь все сделано?

[Nekkro]

Всем спасибо, действительно проблема была в LCM. С вечера ЛТК вновь сверкает бортовыми огнями. Проблема решена.

[Dan757]

Всем спасибо, действительно проблема была в LCM. С вечера ЛТК вновь сверкает бортовыми огнями. Проблема решена.

 

В каком смысле? Прям сам модуль помер, или какой-то из его разъемов отошел?

[Nekkro]

Всем спасибо, действительно проблема была в LCM. С вечера ЛТК вновь сверкает бортовыми огнями. Проблема решена.

 

В каком смысле? Прям сам модуль помер, или какой-то из его разъемов отошел?

 

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